12/31/13

Reddit, Solved: Are Primary and Secondary useful concepts?


"I've always felt a bit uncomfortable about them, and feel like the distinction is perhaps just the shadow of monogamy creeping back into the poly concept. What do you guys think about the primary / secondary distinction? Is it useful? Does it lead to more ideological problems than it it's worth? Does it cause you to treat people differently in a way that isn't really helpful or healthy? How do expectations between primaries and secondaries differ?"

You're not wrong, SiLioceo, monogamy is a creeping, pervasive force that must be stomped out, its vocabulary purged, and its practitioners re-educated.  Ideological problems don't occur among those who are ideologically pure.  Just asking this makes us question your commitment to the poly state.  Oh sure, we've heard you denouncing rules as tools of the decadent monogamists, but you will need to do more than that to demonstrate your loyalty. 

Oh, is that a copy of Opening Up on your book shelf?  Funny, it looks awfully new.  My copy's a mess, of course.  That comes from reading it and bookmarking the best parts.  I can quote whole chapters, but then I'm sure you can too, am I right, comrade?  This brings to mind a quote by Tristan Taormino.  In her critique of Hegelian philosophy,she said, "Monogamy is a circle from which no one can escape.  Its hierarchy is a hierarchy of knowledge".  I come back to that often when confronted with your type.  You question and question.  Re-education hasn't worked.  We sent you for a week at a mini-con, yet again you sit here, an unrepentant recidivist.

For your questioning it is best if you were exiled to the NoFap subreddit, consigned to spend your days reading about people getting endlessly wanky about not wanking. Don't think of this of this as punishment.  The poly state does not punish; it doles out relationships and reddit threads to each based on need, not merit.  That is why the creepy couple just getting into poly finds a hot 22 year old unicorn after a month and you will spend New Years reading NoFap threads to your cat.

Stop crying.  Poly is not all about the tears, comrade.


12/27/13

Reddit, Solved: What's the Difference Between my Home and a Motel?


Platesandteacups asks:

"Everyone understands that even a Motel 6 has to pay for toilet paper, coffee, clean towels, water, detergent, housekeepers, electricity. Guess what? I have to pay for that too, and I pay for nice quality so my lovers can have a pleasant experience. People understand that if you want the nice versions of that shit in a hotel you pay for a nicer place, and your room rate will raise accordingly. If you can't afford the hotel you might decide not to take that vacation. So why am I expected to host for free?


A single unmarried person working full time to manage a household of my own while hosting/traveling to visit three lovers who all have homes and partners (but don't want to split the bills or home responsibilities) feels unfair."

So the issues here is that Plates has three partners who are all in primary relationships with other people and each drop by Plates' house once a week for nookie and cuddles.  Well, the problem is not the nookie, but all the linens dirtied and dogs to be fed.  

If only all problems were this simple.  In our household, we use Quicken Quick Reports to generate billing records that can be quickly sent our other partners.  Rather than let countless hours of sex and other affection continue as countless, we maintain good records and that is amply rewarded at tax time.  Remember, it's not all about the sex; you can bill for breakfast the next morning, in addition to back rubs, time spent watching "Firefly" and food consumed while servicing the other partner's needs.  With Quicken, it's easy peasy, and super romantic!  Our motto here at SoT has always been, "Have fun, and keep your receipts!"

12/22/13

A Sexless Sextet of Awful Polys to Avoid ( possibly or date if on Reddit)

This post was co-authored by The Girl.  

We've spent years in the wild, observing polys in their natural habitat, AKA the Internet, and have broken them down into easily identifiable types.  The reader is cautioned against approaching them in their habitats, unless you are in desperate need of drama and rationalizations of bad behavior.

These are clearly unfair and unflattering stereotypes.  If you're offended because you recognize yourself in one (or more of them), reconsider your life choices.  And your basic personality.  And possibly your grooming habits.  You're welcome.

Type: How is this poly if I'm not getting laid?
You've seen this guy.  For six months, he told her how great poly would be.  He bought "Opening Up" and "Stranger In A Strange Land" and left them by the Xbox for his wife to find.  He was sure he was months away from hot geek-girl sex.  Maybe group sex with cosplayers. But instead his wife is having a ton of fun with her three new boyfriends, while he posts about his resentment online.
Habitat: Game Stop, tearful threads on Reddit, Intersection of Smalltown, USA and Misogyny, staring at an empty OkCupid Inbox
Mating Call: "Polyamorous females just don't get how hard it is to be a guy in poly!"

Type: Pagans aka utilikilts meet wolf shirts
These aren't the polys you'll meet
Nothing objectively wrong with them as long as you have no sense of smell, and don't value social skills.
Habitat: Burning Man, Renn Faire, DragonCon
Mating Call: "Let's all cuddle and watch Firefly."

Type: Ms. Live-in-Moment/Mr. Impermanence
This one will walk out on you after returning from a night of drinking with a friend suspiciously referred to as a new partner despite just meeting.  When the going gets tough, they're fuckin' out of there.  Doesn't believe in hierarchies.  May leave you with their cat.
Habitat: San Francisco, Buddhist retreats, Esalen, your sofa for the weekend
Mating Call: "I just don't feel capable of meeting your emotional needs right now."

Type: Monogamists, aka "You're all trapped in here with me!"
Otherwise known as that person crying by the coffee maker at tonight's munch.  Known for excessive use of veto power and frequent threats of divorce.
Habitat: Alone, at home, again.
Mating Call: "Anyone have some tips for getting over crippling, obsessive jealousy?"

These are the polys you'll meet.  Your move.
Type: Closet Asexuals aka "Yay!  Group cuddle!!"
One of the benefits of Poly is that it allows you to have more a sexual connection with multiple people.  Because of this, it attracts people who are just a tiny bit scarred by their conservative Christian upbringing.  Enjoys finding subtle ways to slut shame swingers, people in open relationships, and everyone who doesn't meet their poly standards of pure love.
Habitat: Utah, Texas, Bible Belt
Mating Call: "Polyamory is about love, not sex, you know!"


Type: Polybloggers and Podcasters, aka "What were we talking about?"
Wish someone would put all your relationship turmoil out there for others to see?  Wish someone would be willing to make an example of you publicly?  If so, we have a hot date for you!
Habitat: Twitter, obsessively checking iTunes ranking, conferences, blocking you from getting off the bus while they refresh their smartphone screens.
Mating Call: "Hey listeners, this week we're going to talk about pitfalls of dating Jared."

12/4/13

Poly, Weakly: Episode 378 (The truth hurts; are you listening, Mrs. The ex-Greydancer, hurts)


-I'm back.  Why do I keep doing this to myself.
-Wut, no LG?  Awww.
-So she tells us about a new poly site she'll link to on the blog and then says, "(I)f you have the iPhone, or Windows, or Amazon app, you'll be able to find it there as well."
 Jebus, lady, there are blind septuagenarian shut-ins with a better understanding of technology.  Next time, Minx, have Ted Stevens cover the goings on with series of tubes.
-I stand corrected.  She's tech savvy.  She explained that, "There's a plug-in for Chrome, so if you use the Chrome browser, there's a plug-in."  Got that?
-She rattled off the categories of relationships one can select on the OKCupid plug-in, including "communicative".  Why do I not think they have this as a relationship model?
-She's exchanged the Twitters with someone.  Again, having a hard time believing this.
-So she hasn't been on OKCupid because LG has been taking all her time, what with meeting up on most weekends.  There isn't a polyamorous bone in her body, is there?
-"I listed that I was looking for romantic relationships, which is actually not true."  Damn, you really had us going there, you cunning minx.
-People wrote in seeking advice from Minx, hopefully for the humor value rather than needing any actual guidance.  Otherwise the poly community would be full of really fucked
up people and their even more fucked up relationships.
-She offers "Q" some dating advice moments after admitting that she's really bad at dating.  While that's pretty crap, this episode is amazing for its honesty mixed with a dash
of bold-faced lies.
-Oh good, "Q" is looking for two bi guys to start a poly family with her and plans to write a user manual on how to do it, but she's also wants to know if Minx has any ideas
about how to do it.  Good Lord, this is the poly community in a nutshell.
-Minx tells "Q" not to be too picky and keep her options open.
-Oh damn, here's a little more shitting on Greydancer's ex-wife.  Nice to know that wound hasn't healed since we last visited (it was in the wedding vows).
-"I just didn't feel I was a good person to date because I was kinda getting knee jerky and paranoid about how the metamor was going to treat me"  That statement started out great;
too bad she felt the need to finish with a bullshit qualifier.  Well, back to stroking herself.
-She admits that she too was into bi guys but "but never managed to date one".  Pro tip, there's a lot you won't be able to check off your dating bucket list if your complete
dating history can be written in crayon on the back of a beer mat.
-"I had a little brain storm".  That term does not mean what you thinks it means, part 498.
-Something something, rambling about kink negotiation in creating scenes.  WTF? She's given up on answering this question.  Just as well.
-"I don't like feeling like I'm just a fuck...wham bam thank you man." Thank you, man?  Uh, is this her admitting that gender play is her secret kink?
-"I want to be able to receive attention and affection on a fairly regular basis."  Episode 378: surprisingly honest.
-So she had issues with single guys providing enough attention and affection to meet her needs and wonders if she was coming across as needy.  It's not that the jury's still out
on this one, it's that they've turned in their badges and gone home.
-Oh, she thinks single guys blowing her off was because she's poly, and therefore not supposed to desire affection.  Yep, people treated you like a clingy basket case because you're
poly. That fits.
-Another letter seeking advice.  What the fuck is wrong with you people?  Can't you get advice from that schizophrenic guy down at the Greyhound depot?  You know, the one with a
cigarette butt in his hair?  He'll offer advice and is strangely more grounded.  Just sayin'.
-Oh damn this is a train wreck relationship.  "R" is in a triad with a couple and she's yiffing with some other guy who has an 18 year old fuck toy.  Somehow, lack of maturity is
an issue here.
-Wait the other woman is like totally being a bitch, "R" is like nuh uh, but the she put it on her blog, and the girl is totally like oh no she didn't.  Ugh.
-Minx is concerned that really young partners may not have enough relationship experience to allow them to handle these situations.  Again, Minx said that.
-What about communication?  Did you try that?  Minx thinks that would help.
-Third reference to Mrs. The ex-Greydancer in this episode.  All water under bridge.  Water deep enough that a careless metamor could drown in, should she fall and hit her head, right?
-"Good advice, bad advice, I'm never sure."  I think that's a solid hint that it's the latter.
-She wants to "crowdsource" feedback.   That term does not mean what you thinks it means, part 499.  She meant to say "brain storm".
-And with that, I'm outta here.  I've got to go warn Greydancer that his ex-wife is in danger.

11/29/13

Poly, Weakly: Episode 377 (Minx gets committed?)


-She and LG start by announcing that they're podcasting in bed and naked.  Lunch just loosened itself and started up my GI tract.
-She said she wanted to share their vows, but I swear to G_d it sounded like she said she wanted to share their vowels, which made me think of LG in a Vanna White
wig.  Lunch is well into the esophagus now.
-CM tells us that she hasn't moved in with LG to form a poly kinky group household because of pet allergy issues.  Seriously?  How 'bout LG's long-suffering wife
or the fact that CM is so vanilla and terrified of committment and that she thinks that BDSM stands for Barely Does Serial Monogamy?
-She called his dick a "weewee".  That ain't a ringing endorsement of a horsecock.  I'm picturing him holding his dick to pee with one hand and getting three fingers wet.
-I'm seriously only 8 minutes in?
-He's talking about "bathroom moments"; I'm so bored, I'm wishing it was what it sounded like. FML.
-CM: (referencing church) "I like saying the same thing over and over".  We have 377 episodes that attest.
-She said that a sparkly ring was a personal goal.
-She also said "1920s Edwardian style".  While inaccurate as hell, it was still one of the lesser dumb statements
-She was surprised that it took him 2 hours to write out their vows into a book.  Clearly, She's never read the text to the Magic cards from his time at Wizards of the Coast.
-His arm was "all out of shape" the next day.  Martial artist Barney Fife?
-Their ceremony included the line, "making a public declaration of our intent to continue mingling our lives"  Wow.  That's like posting your daily to-do list to tumblr, but less public.
-L, you're either really strong to keep from retching constantly, or you've got a whole separate universe where your conscious mind goes.
-I can't tell if LG is as dumb as he sounds, or sounds smarter than he is.
-18 minutes?  No fuckin' way.  This is like a Terrence Malik film festival.
-Okay, now we have the audio of the hand-fasting as officiated by L.
-Ooh, in calling CM her metamor, L sounds like she choked on something.  Seriously, she could barely get the word out.  Run, woman!
-CM: "...when I first saw you, before I even met you, you made me laugh, you made me cringe, and you made me cry,..."  Dude, she just said she laughed at you and found you
-repulsive.  I didn't hear L step in to counter the claim.
-Oh shit, she just just took a dump on her relationship with Greydancer.
-She just agreed to keep at the relationship until it is no longer good for her, him, and anyone who joins it.  No love for L, huh?
-Why does his reading of his vows sound so much like a Dungeon Master reading the description of the Crypt of Elemental Evil?
-Wait, he said CM was the best bet he never paid, and then L says, "I paid." Uh, yeah, honesty in poly, eh?
-L just told CM to "take (her) leftovers".  I guess the honesty in poly thing wasn't a joke. L, you rock!
-Minx calls out a donation while whining about the "dry spell" and reminding us that even the $1.99 ones count.  So she's cheap, but wishes she wasn't.  Aren't we all?
-Episode overall?  Lost two IQ points(INT) and three sanity points (SAN).  Have the DM roll on the neurosis table.

11/24/13

"Couple Privilege" is a Bullshit Concept

There's been a trend in the last several years, in mainstream polyamorous culture – be it the most popular blogs, or podcasts, that is increasingly dogmatic – that there's a “right way” and a “wrong way” to do polyamory. This dogma is also increasingly restrictive and as a result, exclusionary. A lot of this dogma started out as what was actually very good advice on how to build successful poly relationships based on the kind of poly relationships the advice-givers themselves engage in, and what they personally need and desire in relationships. Which is great – for them. It's become a huge problem in the community for those who fall outside that particular box.

At it's heart, polyamory simply refers to the idea that people can have romantic relationships with more than one person at a time. This basic premise leads to a nearly infinite number of different relationship models, from the dreaded polyfi triad of the “unicorn hunters” (in which a preexisting couple attempt to find a bisexual woman to join their and only their relationship) to a completely open structure of any number of people with almost no rules or guidelines allowed and everything inbetween. What's been happening, however, is that anything that resembles the triad model is increasingly seen as the “wrong” kind of poly, and countless articles and podcasts are focused on trying to convince preexisting couples to move to practicing poly in as open and rule-free a way possible. To resist this, the mainstream poly culture says, is an exercise in the laughable notion of “couple privilege”
Lately there's a concept that's been gaining a lot of ground in what I'll just refer to as “mainstream polyamorous culture” as defined by the most popular and well-read blogs, articles, and forums, and most-listened to podcasts. This insidious injustice is referred to as “couple privilege.”

“Privilege” is a concept that comes out of what's generally referred to as the social justice community, and was specifically a concept first used in terms of how racism in the United States gives unearned, hidden privileges to white people, leaving people of color at a disadvantage that white people often don't realize or understand. The concept was quickly used by feminists, who coined “male privilege” and gay activists, who coined the term “straight privilege.” It then continued to expand in usage in social justice circles, with “cis privilege”, “passing privilege”, “neurotypical privilege” “thin privilege” and other uses, some of them appropriate and necessary, others misplaced.

The basis of the privilege concept is oppression. In the U.S., people of color experience oppression, and lack privilege based on the color of their skin and/or race. (This isn't really up for debate here at SoT). Women experience oppression in relation to men, who automatically receive male privilege on the basis of their gender. Privileges and oppressions intersect – a white woman does not receive male privilege, but she is granted white privilege.

“Couple privilege” doesn't work as a concept. You are not born as a couple. You are not guaranteed to remain a couple for the rest of your life. Being in a couple is a conscious choice. A gay person may not be out, but they still are not recipients of straight privilege, because the nature of anti-gay bigotry affects their internal sense of self, their ability to be out in the first place is a decision that largely results from anti-gay oppression. The analogy doesn't work. Coupledom, as a choice people make, doesn't function in a similar way at all to inborn traits that lead people to be privileged or oppressed.

One of the problems with the popularization of social justice ideas and lingo outside of the rigorous academic setting in which it originated is that complex concepts are often reduced to simplistic, black and white thinking by people who don't have a good understanding of the basics behind how oppression and privilege function. Anything that confers social, legal, or other benefits on a group is seen as a privilege, and any negatives that result from being part of a group is thereby explicitly or implicitly understood to be an oppression – when often it's not.

For instance: I completely agree with the idea, behind couple privilege, that “our” (U.S., western, etc) society encourages couple-based relationships. For that matter, so do the vast majority of other cultures and religions. Most societies have expectations that a coupled relationship – preferably legally and/or religiously sanctioned, with children resulting from the union, until someone in the relationship dies – is what everyone should aspire to. It's just expected. It's a clear socio-cultural norm.

Furthermore, being in a couple confers all kinds of benefits on the people in the relationship. Social approval, pooling of resources, and if legally sanctioned, a vast number of economic and social benefits. There is a reason, after all, why same-sex couples want marriage rights.

Based on that, it seems reasonable to say that couples are privileged. And if the people using the term “couple privilege” were basing their arguments on these clear social benefits, I'd be more inclined to take the term seriously, although even with this model there are still problems. Most legitimate uses of the privilege term as described above are based on inherent truths about yourself that you cannot change – your race/ethnicity, your sexual orientation, your gender (understanding that most trans people say they were always the gender they identify with – the issue of non-binary trans people is beyond the scope of this post). Whereas couplehood is far more complex and based more in choice than any of these other identifiers. Almost anyone can choose to be part of a couple, if coupledom is what they seek. (Whether they can find the ideal partner is another matter, but it is not difficult for almost anyone to find another lonely soul with low expectations who wants to be in a relationship. Think of some of the most awful people you know who happen to be married.)

If one voluntarily chooses not to be in a relationship – whether that's because they don't enjoy being part of a couple, or they are having trouble finding a partner that meets their standards – they are still choosing to be single, at least for the time being. There's also the reality that most people are part of a couple at some points during their life. From my point of view, the concept of privilege doesn't work well when it's an attribute that is something nearly everyone on the planet goes through, or is a result of choice. (This is also why I don't buy into the idea of “adult privilege” with regards to children/teenagers as an oppressed group, or “youth privilege” with regards to older people. There are severe disadvantages in various societies with being young, or old – and often legal issues that should be advocated for these groups. That doesn't mean they fit the oppression model.)

But I'm willing to grant that if a person is using the term “couple privilege” to refer exclusively to the important, wide-ranging benefits that couples receive legally, economically, and socially from the culture at large that my disagreement with the concept does rest almost entirely on the semantic argument between “advantages” and “privileges” and a healthy debate could follow.

But no. If you read the definitions and descriptions of couple privilege that are routinely linked to and discussed in the poly community, it becomes clear that the majority of it is based instead on relationship dynamics. Which is a preposterous misunderstanding of the concept of privilege.

“Couple privilege” pushers argue from two fronts: the emotional/practical benefits that couples receive versus single people, and specifically within polyamory, the ways that couples can supposedly use their “couple privilege” in placing the needs of their relationship above that of other partners.

Privilege/oppression is a concept that functions on large dynamics – things that affect an entire culture/society. Couple privilege pushers use the term almost exclusively to refer to things that affect individuals, and confusingly throw in a few examples of the larger disadvantages non-couples face in society as justification for complaints that at their heart, are based entirely on individualistic dynamics.

From the couple vs. single aspect of “couple privilege”, many people have made lists of what privileges couples receive that single people do not. Unlike valid concepts of privilege which rest on irrational, unfair bigotry against a particular group, much of the “privileges” put forth are simple issues based in practicality that has little to nothing to do with seeing singles as an inferior class of people. Examples include the idea that package travel deals are based on double occupancy and singles have to pay more – despite the fact that my single mother takes advantage of such deals for “couples” by traveling with a friend. Or the idea that larger living spaces are afforded to couples who can pool resources, ignoring that groups of people have been choosing to live together to afford nicer places by pooling their resources since forever. Another one, laughably, was the fact that single people may be relegated to sleeping on a cot when visiting family for the holidays, because the bedrooms are afforded to couples. The idea that this family arrangement is based on “oppression” is so ridiculous that I shouldn't have to even mention it, but it makes sense that if two people are willing to share a bed, they will get to sleep in that space to make more room for more people! The minor inconveniences that singles face under these situations are not benefits that only couples can enjoy, but based entirely in practical space concerns.

The other issue put forth by the couples versus singles model are emotional. Being part of a couple means you have someone to rely on for emotional support, to back you up in an argument, to take care of you when you're sick. But again, none of these functions are or should be relegated to romantic couples only. Friends and family can fulfill nearly all of these emotional roles, if the author had bothered to cultivate and treat non-romantic/sexual relationships as seriously as romantic/sexual ones.

It's also worth noting that these couple privilege checklists don't assess the many downsides of being part of a couple. If you don't believe me, stay tuned for our single privilege checklist.

Within specifically the polyamorous concept of couple privilege, the same individualistic error is applied. In this context, “couple privilege”, generally, refers to any action that results from the couple privileging their relationship above any other romantic/sexual relationships. You can argue that this is a bad or even “wrong” way to do polyamory (which I disagree with but that's a matter for another post) but it's not privilege as is understood within a social justice context. All a single poly person has to do to avoid couple privilege is to not enter into relationships with couples! A woman can't escape sexism, even if she doesn't date men, and a Black person can't escape racism, even if they don't socialize with white people. Real oppression is not something you can escape via a simple choice, but couple privilege, as defined by polyamorous people, can simply be avoided. Problem solved!


I hope you made it through this rather pedantic wall of text. I apologize for the dryness of this post, but when dealing with social justice concepts I prefer to err on the side of boring clarity rather than entertaining snark. Rest assured that my next post, which will explore in greater detail the problems with anti-couple thought in modern poly culture, will be a lot more fun, both for me to write and for you to read.  

11/22/13

Poly, Weakly: Episode 376 (What's a sociopath? I'll show you in less than 15 minutes)

-It's only 14 minutes long.  Thank you, Jesus!  Wait, LG has Jesus hair. Hmmm.
-Hey guys, they're getting hand-fasted in Costa Rica.  It's in Costa Rica!
-Letter from a secondary who's partner's wife is dying and wants the secondary to bow out.  CM says she's been in this situation before.  I spit take before she can clarify that it's
just like when Graydancer's wife wanted her to keep her filthy whore hands of of their family silverware (worded based on the tone used.  She may have meant dirty homewrecker paws.
Just editorializing).  Point Minx.
-According to LG, anyone else's opinion "including the wife's, are only worth so much".  Listen close and you can actually hear the sound of CM's elusive conscience knocking.  Seriously,
listen to minute 6:10.  You can hear her sharp intake of breath.
-Whew, crisis narrowly averted.  CM compares this to her being willing to step in recently to fuck LG when his wife was feeling ill.  Minx, I've got the Nobel committee on the phone!  Their
sociopathy-based award has its first nominee.
-Nine minutes in.  Minx says LG just said something wise.  He wisely agrees with that assessment. The wisdom bursts from this podcast like a moist fart.
-The Happy Poly Moment has adults in tribes eating pizza while wearing footie pajamas.  Apparently, no ghost stories were told.  Happy Poly Moment my ass.
-Hey guys, they're getting hand-fisted on the beach in Costa Rica!  It's in Costa Rica!  Apparently this is the show's new tagline.  It's still worlds better than "It's not all about the
sex".
-Another minute of this episode and I would have been test-fitting my mouth for a .45.  Seriously.  I've done three in one night.  Put me down like a gimped racehorse.

11/15/13

Poly, Weakly: Episode 375 (Mommy, where'd the winter coat money go?)


-LG claims he used to make adult videos and that resulted in angry viewer mail.  Who the fuck writes in to people in porn? "Dear Ms. Hartley, regarding your last double anal scene, I
feel that you're interactions with your fellow thespians rang hollow..."
-Also, LG in porn.  Thank G-d I'm drinking and therefore numb to the effects of those words.  Sobriety, this is why we cannot meet.
-CM announces that she's doing something different this week by turning the light on her relationship.  She turns the spotlight on herself.  Bask in it, folks.  It ain't coming around
again soon.  Oh, there it is.  And again.  Look kids, Big Ben!
-Hey guys, they're getting hand-fasted in Costa Rica.
-LG just compared himself to Henry V.  They're both pale and bearded, I guess.  Point LG?
-They're doing this on the beach.  In Costa Rica.  With friends.  "Oh, and L, of course."  That really was the line, no BS.  Also, no homo, as I've seen LG's pictures.
-Apparently L didn't even pretend to give a shit.  L has apparently agreed to tie them together.  Take my husband; please!
-They talk about searching for rings.  My level of give-a-shit reached the point where I was ready to tie their hands together as well.
-Even the ring designer told them to fuck off and just go buy an antique. CM appreciated that LG didn't care about her ring choice.  How considerate.
-LG congratulates himself for being so cool about the ring shopping thing.
-CM congratulates LG for being so cool about the ring shopping.
-LG concurs with CM's praise of him in the ring shopping.  He likes her liking him.  Does this count as a triad?  Does this count as a Happy Poly Moment?  Either way, I'm bored.
-Blah blah; something from Sweden about polys.  Fuck it.  Someone gave the podcast $150! Take that, Scandinavia!  Minx get's excited about this in the way she only gets about
donations.  Meanwhile, the donor's kids ask if they'll be getting the reduced-price school lunches next year as well.
-Yeah, it just got dark.

11/8/13

Poly, Weakly: Episode 374 (Mistakes couples make when getting into poly: this episode could be one of them)


-I'm going into this knowing it's going to be rough.  I'm doing back-to-back episodes today.  Pray for me.
-This is an episode about mistakes couples make when opening up.  How would CM know?  Seriously?
-Someone named Marcia Baczynski is talking about her educating people venturing into poly.  She also did something with "Cuddle Party" in the name.  Salt grains applied.
-Marcia has some good points to make, but seriously, what are her bona fides beyond an e-book and cuddle parties?  Oh, she has a degree in PR.  Well, the poly community
could use a PR sense.  And a stylist.  No more fedoras and Michael Bolton hair.
-Tristan Taormino's name gets dropped on poly podcasts like Wil Wheaton's at a D&D convention.
-Fuck.  Twenty-one minutes in and I give up.  I've always been able to power through before, but I just see this as 55% of the way into a banal, taupe-colored hell.  The
final straw was her kissing up to CM.  Oh you're right.  No you're right.  They blow each other into one big smug ouroboros.
-Jesus, it's minute 23 and I'm still here.  Why do I keep hurting myself?  Is it so I can feel?
-They were just saying that mistake number four is that people feel like they have to be the perfect poly partner, even when they're not feeling it.  Then it pivots to
something about a martyr complex, CM thinks that some of her partners couldn't do poly, unlike her.  Couldn't hear the dialog clearly, as the audio went smug.
- A self-taught life coach who charges a grand for cuddle therapy talking with a self-taught social media consultant about how people should do relationships.  We've reached bullshit
critical mass.  A giant imploding brown star.  Midway through this, words are losing meaning.  It just became babble.  As someone who once had his teeth viciously stomped into a curb by
an angry Texas cop, this ranks only slightly lower among life experiences I'd prefer not to repeat.  What I'm saying is, if this podcast was any longer, I'd be shouting, "Bring it on,
Trooper Butterfield!"
-CM closes by panhandling.  Why leave a crumb of dignity on the table?  I say this while listening to this podcast so I can post this to a blog that focuses way too much on this. FML.

11/1/13

Poly, Weakly: Episode 373 (They carried her on their shoulders; you should have seen it)


-CM tries to sex-up the word "blow-out"; the result is actually less sexy that a straight line reading.
-CM is podcasting from bed and then feels the need to tell us that it's less sexy than it sounds.  How does she do that?
-"Coming down the pipe," she said.  She could read erotica and it would sound like software source code being read through a loudspeaker by Ben Stein.
-She tells us that she will only take sponsorships that help the listeners.  Why take money unless it helps people?  Unless it's just panhandling.  That's still cool, right?  Right.
-She's doing this for us, who enable her con trips with donations.  Way to send conflicting messages, Minx.
-"We, activists".  There goes another term stripped of all meaning.
-Minx used to teach communications?  I can only picture her in a 70s community college classroom, wearing all denim and teaching CB etiquette.  Am I the only one?  Whatever,
liars.
-At 10:16, "Damn straight, take their money!"  Ladies and genitals, we have a new show tagline.
-Minx, when you have to say, "and this is funny," it's not. Ever.
-And this is where the podcast gets interesting!  See what I did there?
-She attended a lecture on monetizing talking and writing about sex.  Minx by way of Archer's Pam Poovey, "Sploosh!"
-Oh, it's not her goal at all, she laboriously explains, but man-oh-man did this lecture have some great stuff and yes, she took copious notes.
-"If your audience wants you to keep coming on the face, then keep coming on the face,"  so yes, audience she's been coming on your face.
for nearly 400 episodes.  It's empowering!?  No, that explanation always rang hollow, even here.
-She relays some really good information regarding assumptions about sex workers.  I wish I had heard the original lecture.  Seriously.
-Minx participated in an event where they tell stories on stage about sex, no notes.  She told a story about anal sex.  Okay.  Turns out it got the most riotous
laughter of anything she has ever done.  The crowd probably foisted her on their shoulders and carried her out like Rudy.  Oh, and she forgot to record it.
-The callers.  Oh sweet Jebus, one of them sounds way too much like my father-in-law.  Just as long-winded.  Oh never mind, he has a job.  Crisis averted.

10/25/13

Poly, Weakly: Episode 372 (Swingers explain non-monogamy to Minx)


-The Swingset people are remarkably articulate.  It throws a stark contrast on the maturity difference between the voices of the poly community and those
of the dirty swingers CM dislikes so much.
-They spend 5 minutes explaining how close swinging is to poly, even two sides of the same coin, and then CM asks if they're trying to bring the
different communities together.
-Minute 9, CM manages to be a real ass.  She's not open or a swinger so why does she need their community?  They talk about voting blocks and
collective power, and CM seems lost beyond the concept of her clique.
-He makes a good point that swinger-open-poly needs to band together like LGBT.  Minx's snort almost sounds like feedback.
-Is CM not a swinger?  She hasn't pointed it out in a while.  Oh wait.  Nevermind.  Could it be clearer that she looks down on it?
-"Don't dom me," CM tells a joke and it's actually funny.
-Oh shit, Cooper calls out poly people for saying casual sex is icky.  Sadly, it whooshed over CM's head.
-OFFS, she's calling out donations again.  She always brings up the amount.  Damn it's vulgar.
-Hundreds of thousands of people helped?  Seriously?  If only the UN had her efficacy.

10/18/13

Poly, Weakly: Episode 371 (I can't finish this now. It is too shit to deal with)



-Hey there's a new conference and the podcast gets money for it.  Not directly said, but you know, it's the thought of money that counts.
-Oh shit, there are classes oriented toward secondaries and talking to metamors.  Wait, a polyamory bootcamp?  Seriously?  Do they break fingers too?  Please!
-Wooo! the conference includes poly speed dating, also known as speed dating.  Still stupid.
-LG is back...yay...
-a letter from some whose short-lived relationship was failing. Oh fuck.  I don't care.  I really don't.  This podcast just makes me weep.