Showing posts with label online dating. Show all posts
Showing posts with label online dating. Show all posts

1/11/15

Stop Romanticizing NRE

As all three readers of this blog know, we here at SoT take a pretty cautious view of what polyamorists refer to as “New Relationship Energy” (NRE), otherwise known as “limerance” in the psychology world and “infatuation” to the rest of us.  We’re certainly written about it enough, and it was clear that in our situation, it was something we were hoping to avoid.


Whoops.  


I’m seeing someone, and yes, fairly extreme limerance on my part is involved.  And it’s just the worst.  I don’t feel in control of my thoughts, I’m constantly distracted, and the extreme highs and lows are exhausting. Even if logically, I understand that I am having irrational thoughts, that doesn’t stop me from experiencing the emotions that said cognitions lead to me to.  Here’s a brief guide to where my head’s been out in the last three weeks:


-Not receiving an email within the space of a day or sometimes even hours?  He’s obviously lost all interest in me.
-Sends me a nice email?  Walkin’ on air for hours.
-I am probably the worst wife ever, I should probably cry about the guilt a lot
-Then I should spend hours asking my husband to analyze what’s going on and tell me that my limerance object is totally into me/not into me at all
-We should probably go to Berlin together as soon as possible even though I have no idea if we share the same travel interests and have had only one overnight to date
-Thinking it’s a good idea to force a “where are we at” conversation way too early into it and freak out and say we shouldn’t see each other anymore before giving him time to respond appropriately
-Time to over-analyze everything he says for signs that he’s totes into me/totes not into me
-Making like 5 mixtapes for him that I will certainly never send
-This is the best/worst thing I have experienced in a while.  Whether it’s the best or the worst thing can change within the space of 5 minutes, for no particular reason.


To make myself feel better, I started doing some research on this state and what I found was not very encouraging.


Psychologists define limerance is defined as “an involuntary state of mind which results from a romantic attraction to another person combined with an overwhelming, obsessive need to have one’s feelings reciprocated.”  Experts believe it is biochemical in nature, functioning similarly to the way obsessive-compulsive disorder and addiction in the brain.  When you read through the symptoms of being in a limerant state, it’s clear to see how irrational, and, well, silly it is.  But remember that involuntary part?  Yeah.  You can’t control your thoughts.


There is a semantics issue here as well.  Polyamorist author Franklin Veaux claims limerance and NRE are actually different things - NRE being just positive, of course, and limerance being a little more of a grey area.  Even some limerance experts make a distinction between being limerant and “true romantic love”.  Frankly, I’m not sure I’m buying it.  Taking the same chemical reaction and splitting hairs to validate a positive outcome of limerance doesn’t help us rationally evaluate the state for what it is.


In a situation where you’re genuinely compatible with the object of your limerance and your feelings are reciprocated, it runs concurrently with the beginning of the falling-in-love process.  Eventually romantic love develops, and that grows stronger as the limerance fades over the months.  Then, in theory, you wind up in a healthy relationship.  That’s certainly been the case for my own marriage.


But even that happy ending doesn’t negate the fact that limerance is irrational and blinds you to reality.  I’m lucky that I experienced limerance for someone who was so perfect for me, but I’ve also experienced it for people who most certainly were not, which lead to getting into relationships that were very unhealthy.  Had I not been blinded initially by limerance, I would’ve been able to perceive that person wasn’t a good partner for me much earlier than I did.


Of course, that sounds like I’m shirking responsibility for bad decision-making, but I’m not.  I’m older and wiser now, and most importantly, aware of what limerance is and how it functions.  And I know I can control my actions, even if in a limerant state I feel almost completely unable to control my obsessive thoughts.  I can logically tell myself that you cannot fall in love in a matter of weeks, or even a few months, because you cannot know someone well enough to truly love them in such a short amount of time..  I can remind myself of what real romantic love feels like and understand that just because my body is telling me one thing my head knows better.  


What worries me is the celebration of this state in polyamorous culture, however.  For starters, limerance is inherently selfish.  It is not unconditional love or genuine regard for another person, although it’s easy to lie to yourself and say that it is.  The state is best evoked by the poets of the band “Cheap Trick” in their classic song “I You To Want Me.”  Note how many times the words “I” and “me” are used in that song.  


Limerance desires reciprocation above all else.  It’s ego-driven, and the opposite of selfless love.  This excellent blog post explains specifically the selfishness of an infatuated person. And yet polyamorist writers say things like “NRE is transcendent,” and “New relationship energy should always be celebrated,” and then avoid addressing the topic in too much detail.  Everyone’s favorite poly book of the moment, “More Than Two” is over 700 pages long, yet spends exactly two pages discussing NRE, and is largely very positive about it, just adding a few cautionary notes to not neglect your existing relationships while experiencing it.  That seems insufficient, given the degree to which NRE both creates and sometimes destroys relationships.


I’m not trying to say that limerance is bad, though.  It just is, and for most people, there’s no avoiding it unless you avoid other human beings.  What is bad is taking this involuntary, obsessive, crazy-making state and confusing it with love, or even with the beginning of love.  Just because limerance is something most people experience as they’re falling in love does not mean that limerance itself is the process of falling in love.  Limerance is chemicals in your brain trying to get you to make babies with another person, basically (no surprise so many safer-sex slip-ups also happen when in the throes of NRE).


It’s often referred to as a drug-like state, and I think we can take that metaphor further.  People can experience great, wonderful feelings while on drugs, and have insights that seem well, transcendent at the time.  (Oh hello, ecstasy!)  But those feelings and realizations are inorganic, they are literally being created by altered brain chemistry.  However, if an insight can actually be taken from that experience and applied fully to your life when you’re sober, that’s great.  But that didn’t come from the drug, that came from you.  When you’re on the drug, you’re not able to distinguish what is real that you’re feeling and what isn’t.  Or you can even have realizations that may be true but simply cannot be applied to your life while sober.  (Which reminds me of the time I decided there was no reason I should ever have to feel physical pain, because it’s simply an electric current being transmitted by nerves that our brains then interpret as an unpleasant sensation.  But with enough brain control you could interpret that signal as neutral.  Great idea!  Except it’s impossible, whoops.)  My point being that you can be limerant and actually falling in love with someone, but because your brain is “high” it’s impossible to tell in the moment whether you are or not.  You just have to wait until you’re “sober” to figure it out because being in limerance is literally an altered state.


The only way to experience this state without neglecting your life, work, hobbies, friends, and most importantly, your existing relationships is to be extremely aware of the irrationality of it - and then do your best to behave as if you are not experiencing it as much as you can (which will probably mean you’re only talking about your limerance object way too much, as opposed to the way way way way WAY too much you would be if you weren’t being self-conscious about it.)

So I’m against romanticizing NRE or at this point, even calling it NRE.  Referring to it as energy that comes from a relationship elevates the crazy to the same level as a love relationship, which it clearly is not.  It’s fine to enjoy it or rather, not enjoy it if you’re a control freak like me, but don’t call it something it’s not.

5/20/10

OKCupid has jumped the shark, for realz.

For years OKCupid has been my go-to dating site for several reasons: it's free, it (used to) attract unconventional, geeky people who were still fuckable, it wasn't exceedingly meat markety, it doesn't have a Christian agenda, there were funny quizzes, you didn't have to answer a bunch of stupid questions unless you wanted to.

Via OKCupid, I met a couple decent fuckbuddies (several of whom I'm still on good terms with), various and sundry assholes, a flat out terrible boyfriend, and even a friend or three. The site did facilitate me hooking up with current BF even if it wasn't how we met. I've used the dating styles quiz as a litmus test for where I was at WRT dating at various points in my life. All in all, OkCupid has served me well enough in the past.

The thing is, it's gone downhill recently. It's possible that as I enter my thirties and get pickier, I'm aging out of the OKC demographic. But here's the thing- ten years ago, online dating was stigmatized by the general public which meant the people who did it were either totally undateable, or else kind of weird but awesome (I prefer to view myself as an early adopter in the latter category). But somewhere along the line, assholes realized it was an easy way to get laid. (I briefly dated a fat dude with a neckbeard who confessed over beers that "he no longer thinks he could be in a committed relationship since it's so easy for him to get laid with online dating." Just, EW.) And a lot of people don't understand online dating netiquette, so the site is now flooded with profiles of assholes in Naperville who only post one photo, don't fill out their profile, don't read my profile, and send me messages that say "Yo."

I've put up and taken down profiles maybe 5 or 6 times as successes and frustrations with the site have waxed and waned. However, a
friend of mine posted something they sent her on her Facebook today that annoyed the shit out of me:

"We are very pleased to report that you are in the top half of OkCupid's most attractive users. [. . .] Your new elite status comes with one important privilege:... You will now see more attractive people in your match results.[. . .] Suddenly, the world is your oyster. And, no, we didn't just send this email to everyone on OkCupid. Go ask an ugly friend and see."

Ok, so what is this shit? (and yes, I'm one of her "ugly friends" apparently.) This strikes me as so petty, so ick, and so unlike what I thought OKCupid stood for, as a weirdo-friendly dating site. There's already a "beautiful people" dating site that boots members if they gain 5 pounds, and while attractiveness is important, it's also highly subjective. While I agree that said friend is lovely, rewarding members as with "elite" privilege on the basis of conventional attractiveness strikes me as petty and alienating to the majority of users.

It makes me feel like, at the end of the day, high school
oppression mentality is still lurking everywhere. Anyone have any suggestions for dating sites that are free and don't suck?

5/7/10

Online dating dealbreakers

I don't necessarily believe that it's safer to date people you meet in person as opposed to the internet. Some of the biggest crazies I've dated I've met in person. If anything, the internet allows you to screen people a little more thoroughly ahead of time and opt out faster.

One of my challenges in being in an open relationship is there just aren't that many people I consider dateable or even fuckable. Especially from the online pool. Join me as I share tales of some of my favorite online dating dealbreakers- in these cases I had actually been considering going out with the person until these things happened. Most of these are from OKCupid unless indicated otherwise.

-Aging hipster dude: "I don't expect you to fuck me on the first date, but I expect you to wear nail polish, eyeliner, lipstick and the dress from your profile photo." Actually no, you're not my personal stylist. He also claimed there were "no datable women" in the entire Detroit Metropolitan area, which makes me wonder what he's doing wrong.

-23 year old college student, claimed to be bisexual and kinky. I sent him a text message mentioning I was going to a play party, he replied he "wasn't comfortable with that sort of thing," and then admitted he had virtually no experience with kink, and "is that a dealbreaker?" Yes it is, son. Honesty is the best policy.

-Short Latino Dom off of Craigslist (this was a few years ago). We had a perfectly nice pg rated phone conversation, and the night before our first planned date, he sends me a text out of the blue asking if I like buttplugs. I reply that I feel like it's a bit soon to be discussing this, since I haven't met him yet. "Wrong answer," he replies, and never speaks to me again.

-Bearded poly dude can't stop gushing about how great I am and how much he likes me when he hasn't met me yet and we've barely chatted. I tell him that maybe he should reserve judgment until he's actually met me. (Everytime a guy decides they're "crazy about me" before meeting me, they're generally bad news). He asks me if I have a "self esteem problem" and says I shouldn't be so "emotionally guarded" about showing my deepest feelings to strangers on the internet, because "what's the risk?" Big red sirens going off. BUH BYE!

-Cute, interesting-seeming scholarly punk dude, seemed ok over email, but kept sending me "wacky" nonsensical text messages that I guess he thought were clever but were actually just incredibly annoying, and making up weird nicknames for me. I actually bumped in him by accident at an event and got the BIG CRAZY vibe.

-Super hot bisexual musician guy, sent me naked photos. Found out from a friend that she'd gone on a date with him, he'd insisted on trying on her clothes (without her permission), told her to spank him, then left, never to talk to her again. Never went on a date with him, but one time he spotted me through the window of a store where I worked and asked me if they were hiring.

-Hot, emotionally damaged yet witty underachiever with excellent taste in music. Began bombarding me with tales of his bedbug problem, sexual addiction, and existential misery via gchat on a constant basis, sight unseen. Ok, I actually did hang out with him (and fuck him) after 2 months without sex following a shitty breakup. Probably more trouble than he was worth, but the rebound sex was good, and it got me over my ex. Was deeply confused by his assertions that we were more than fuckbuddies, we were "good friends!" when I decided to stop hooking up with him.

I am continually impressed by how inept people are at crafting online dating profiles and facilitating communication. For example, I recently spotted the profile of a dude I thought was reasonably hot and shared a lot of my more obscure interests, but he kept asserted "this is an act of revenge!" over and over again in his profile, and alluded to a bad break-up. In that case, you're not ready to date- online dating should not be treated as an "act of revenge," though I suspect a lot of people don't understand that.

Maybe next time I'll talk about the worst first dates I've lived through.