5/24/11

When Sex is NOT Fun: A Haterate Mini-series

So much for that promise to update the blog more regularly, huh?  Let's just say that uprooting your entire life and moving around the country is a bit more daunting than one might imagine. But no time for excuses, because I've got some hate to share with y'all.  But because of my tendancy to get long-winded, I'm gonna break it down into a couple of posts.

In the world of sex-positive blogging and podcasting, the "Sex is Fun" podcast is one of the best-known.  It's also a podcast that I should like, because in theory it's a group of diverse, knowledgeable "sex educators" (more on that later) talking about sex, open relationships, toys, health, and all that important stuff, with an inclusive, queer-friendly take on things.  On the surface, it sounds great.  And certainly it has been, and there have been many episodes I've enjoyed.

The problem is that the creator and main host of the podcast, a guy who goes by the disturbingly awful moniker "Kidder Kaper" is a creepy, douchey narcissist.  And I'm only being half-insulting here.  In a particularly apt display of self-awareness, Kidder does in fact identify himself frequently as a narcissist.  Which is good.  Because he is.  The problem is he's quite proud of this, and is happy, lately, to let the podcast revolve around him.

But I don't want this to be all entire petty haterade, so let's give credit where credit is due.  Kidder is a straight married white guy in his late 30's, who is pretty knowledgeable about sex.  He's a big proponent of anal pleasure for men, which is rare and cool enough to be worth noting.  Even more surprising is that lately he's become something of a proponent for greater acceptance of male bisexuality - in the swinging scene, in porn, just in general.  Good for him.  Have I said enough nice things about him yet?

Kidder describes himself as a "sex educator" although as far as I can tell, he defines "education" as being a sex podcaster who has written a sex manual.  He has no academic credentials or certifications to back up this title. Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but when it comes to something as serious as educating about sex, I think the resume should be a little more padded.  He apparently got into the business by writing sex games.  Seriously.  The whole "Sex is Fun" podcast is tied in directly with a line of sex games.

Luckily there are co-hosts, including "Gay Rick" who is an actual HIV/AIDS educator, and LauraRad who also has an actual professional background in sex education and is one of the more thoughtful members of the team. "Coochie" is the sound engineer but also chimes in, as does "Lorax" who handles the web aspect of things and also is Kidder's bff/a girl he wants to fuck.

The problem with the podcast can really be boiled down to Kidder, who has a habit of making himself the focus of everything.  Even when interviewing sex-positive superstars like Tristian Taramino, he still manages to turn the focus back on the important part: Kidder.  He's made entire episodes that are simply anecdotes about parties - not sex parties, mind you, just normal parties.  Oh, he's also a douche on the forums.  Let me share some of Kidder's wisdom with you.

On homebirthing:
"Who really cares if people choose to give birth at home? There are too many people on the planet anyway. I guess as long as they don't want society to pay for their oxygen deprived (special in a bad way) children, I say go for it. I really don't care if they have the proper training OR they just have a doula."

On dudes threatened by their partner's masturbation:
"Whenever a partner is jealous, regardless of why, it is usually a good idea to identify what you are doing to make them feel unspecial. If they feel as though your masturbation is leaving them high and dry, it seems reasonable for you to prove to them that it doesn't, in-fact you could even show them how much better your sex is because you masturbate."   
Or their partner might just be a dick who can't deal with women getting off without them.

On Kidder the Caveman:
"I've found that fighting who I am is only moderately successful and destroys all that which makes me, me. A long time ago, the tribe needed my kind, to stay awake, keep the fire burning and protect us all from predators that attacked in the night. Even more important than our nocturnal sentinel abilities was our imagination, that was given free range range free in the wee hours of the night. So as important as dreams are, they pale in comparison to ideas."
This might seem unfair out of context.  But it made no sense in context either.

On boycotting a sex resort for not allowing queer men:
"Boycotting them now isn't boycotting Desire at all. It is boycotting us. Continue as you wish but know that if we fail to get a good showing, you are hurting us and our goal to make them realize that we are a force to be reckoned with...So do what you will, but know that we're the ones holding the bill at the end of the day when this trip fails."

On charges the podcast focuses on him too much:
"It would be incredibly stupid to call the show the "Kidder Caper Show" especially because my name is Kidder Kaper you illiterate twat. I will always rant about religion and I will say whatever the FUCK I wish about tattoos whenever the FUCK I feel like saying it. "Tats are dumb!" See I just did it again."
He really dislikes tattos and body  piercings I guess? But I'm glad he clarified the spelling of his fake last name.

On pussies:
"Laura Rad and Gay Rick are significantly better educators than I am, especially if the students are big pussies. (If you got offended by the word "pussies" in the last sentence, you are definitely in the "pussy camp") Me, I'm better at dealing with big boys and girls that can take the truth without a bunch of sugar to help make the truth more tasty."

On his wife's sexual shortcomings:
"She also has trouble giving me head for very long without experiencing jaw pain and is quite selfish when it comes to letting me play with her ass. The things that she offers me for putting up with these minor annoyances are FUCKING IMMEASURABLE, so much that I feel like a complete douchebag for even contemplating complaining that I don't get to pump ball juice her in the ass as often as I may like."
Despite the supposedly romantic spirit of this quote, calling his wife "selfish" because he can't fuck her ass all the time is a dick move.  Also: ball juice?

On "Pedal-Stools":
"I think it is a terrible loss to the American consciousness that we raise people on pedal-stools that have done absolutely nothing to deserve even a mention in the freaking classifieds, while others who are actually doing amazing things for humanity are rarely getting any mention in the popular press."
I'm just being petty now, but I cannot get over "pedal-stools."

Hopefully these hilarious quotes from the master of sex education (in the same way that I, by having a blog about sex and thinking about sex, am also a "sex educator")  have given you some insight into the irritating showboat that is Kidder Kaper (thank god I know how to spell that!)  This is really just a set up for part 2: When Kidder, open relationship expert, finds himself deeply threatened by the dreaded "full swap" and uses his podcast to bully his wife.  Or we can just call it an educational series in how not to do open relationships.  Because I'm an educator!

16 comments:

  1. I dont ever need to listen to this podcast because reading you make fun of it is waaay more entertaining!

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  2. This is FRAKing fantastic! You really nailed the true me in this. Most of those quotes really bring out my inner snarky. Honestly, I should hire you to put together my highlight reel of memorable quotes.

    Honestly, I seriously enjoyed reading this. Lorax, (girl I TOTALLY wanna fuck) agrees wholeheartedly as well.

    Nice work by Girl About (OAK) Town. I look forward to reading more from you about me.

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  3. I <3 you, Kidder...

    Great article, I still love SIF, and I think most of us who do, just accept Kidder as he is :D

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  4. So I'm a regular listener to this podcast and couldn't help leaving a comment. Yes, Kidder is a great narcissist and many of his experiences come off as him bragging. That's the awesome thing about this show! You hear real thoughts from real people even if you may not agree with them. Kidder maybe an ass, but he makes you think about sex in a different light. I'm so grateful for this cast of people and can't think of any reason why I would stop listening! Keep it up SiF because sex IS fun!!

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  5. I am also a regular listener to SIF but Kidder's recent public meltdown is too much for me to take. The "snark" he mentions comes off as "immaturity."

    I understand where he's coming from. I understand why he said the things he said about his wife. I just hope the real person behind this persona isn't such a douchebag.

    Kidder's public outing of his wife's indiscretions feel icky and self-serving. It's not entertaining. It's not educational. It only serves Kidder.

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  6. I wasn't going to post a comment because I feel it is giving you way too much credit when the only reason you are getting attention at this moment is at the expense of Kidder Kaper, although he finds it comical which haters usually are. Let's start with his comments about his wife, she speaks about some of the same things in their Bathtalk podcast and on SIF. Next, no they do not use their real names, but is this anything new to 90% of the people in the public eye? Even our movie stars and singers do not use their real names, so why is this an issue? Kidder is bold, crass, honest, and speaks his mind. More people should do this and then we wouldn't have as many people ignorant to the truth running around. That's like a guy asking his partner if they think he dick is small and they reply no you're the biggest I've ever seen! They are going to get a rude awakening one day because someone couldn't step up and say you might not be huge but we can work with it! I'm all about making someone feel good but not at the expense of a lie. You don't have to agree with anyone's opinions but you have no right to say they shouldn't be said no matter where they are said!

    As for him speaking about his personal life, that is a great quality because it can help others relate to the topics. Anyone can read from a book or a journal but still don't know what they are talking about. I'd rather hear about actual experiences. Kidder opening up about his recent relationship issues has been enlightening as well because it makes you see that even in good relationships things can happen and do happen all the time to good people. But once again, if you do not want to hear it don't listen, read, or otherwise.

    It is odd though that you are pointing out his "faults" as if it makes him a horrible person to have an opinion yet you are making your own by posting this hatred on here (but this isn't all petty hatred supposedly). How does that make you different or more of a better person than him? At least he admits to being a narcissist and an ass. Are you just trying to get a name for yourself by blogging about a well known person? If what you wanted was the attention I guess you did well on your part.
    But, no one can hold it against you for what you believe. Perception is individual and the way I see things is your obviously too cynical of others and life around you if all you can do with your time is serach for and spread hatred. But once again this is just my perception of you and your blog and you do not have to listen to me either, cause seriously who am I? Well, I've already given you enough of my time so have a wonderful and lovely day :-)

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  7. Come on, Ashley. Comparing Kidder Kaper to "movie stars and singers?" Saying he's a well-known person? Saying this blogger is looking for attention? Really? Really. ... Really.

    Wow.

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  8. You totally took the "Kidder on Cavemen" quote completely out of context. He was talking about his lifelong battle with chronic insomnia. It is all right here. http://sexisfun.net/cgi-bin/MT5/mt-tb.cgi/290

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  9. Oh, Kidder, I knew it was only a matter of time before you googled yourself! But you brought readership to this sad, rarely-updated blog so I appreciate that, seriously.

    I have to admit that being taken aback by what I saw as horrible behavior (agreeing with the anonymous above) about outing Jade's indiscretions and that whole episode in general. Having listened to the more recent podcast, I'm feeling a little more sympathetic towards you, as I'm not lacking in empathy and you sound like you're going through a real rough time right now. It almost makes me almost want to shelve my intended series of posts about how you publicly talk about negotiating open relationships, because it feels like kicking a puppy at this point.

    But on the other hand, you put it all out there. You claim to want feedback but at least based on your behavior to people on the SexIsFun boards, you seem to get really hostile when people actually criticize what you DO put out there. And in a way that makes me want to unleashed the force of my haterade even more! It seems unfair to your listeners to be so opinionated and put so much of your personal life out there and get so angry when people weigh in with their own opinions on what you talk about.

    But now you leave me in a bit of a pickle - your real life experience brings up a lot of good ways to me, on this blog, to talk about how I think you and your wife made some major mistakes in approaching open relationships. On the other hand, I don't particularly like kicking sad-eyed puppies. What would you do, if you were me?

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  10. Ashley - I wasn't criticizing Kidder for using a fake name - obviously I and my husband and my co-writers of this blog ALL use fake names, for good goddamn reason. One thing I'm sure Kidder and I agree on is how important privacy is when talking honestly about sex, given that we live in a sex-negative culture where people who talk honestly about sex are likely to face reprisals for it.

    As far as the rest of your fangirl comment, Kidder isn't everyone's cup of tea. He knows this, ffs, but you don't seem to get it. His particularly brand of self-involved dudebro attitude happens to rankle me, yes, particularly becuase the show has so many fans who look up to him and I don't often like a lot of the ways he talks about open relationships and how to negotiate them. I have a personal, fundamental moral disagreement with a lot of his views about fairness and jealousy and "being special" in open relationships. Just like I have a lot of disagreements with the way the people at Polyamory Weekly talk about open relationships. This is an opinionated blog, the writers consume vast amounts of media relating to sex, and then we write our opinions on it.

    But you're right in that I didn't get around to critiquing what I found so problematic in the episode of "Kidder and Jade's Relationship Changes." I posted this because a) funny b) easy c)whets the reader's appetite for the much longer, much more boring, much less funny post that was to follow (that I am considering putting on hold because it's one thing to take apart a solid marriage, it's another thing entirely to draw attention to one that's in serious trouble, regardless of how ass-y I find the people in said marriage to be). And of COURSE I'm looking for attention. People don't blog with the hopes that no one will read it, geez.

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  11. Girl About (Oak) Town, you've got to do what your inspiration tells you to do. Put your hands on your keys and you'll do the right thing. If that is taring into me, then by all means, do it. Don't worry about kicking a puppy. They are tasty and their coats make exceptionally soft pillows should you end up killing it.

    I do honestly LOVE a well written criticism of ANYTHING or ANYONE. When I respond them I just allow myself to go where the feeling takes me. I don't concern myself with it being perceived as hostile. If it makes people think, laugh, or inspired to respond, it is already more useful than 99% of everything else written or said and vomited out into the atmosphere.

    It is important to realize that any attempt to change the world is going to piss people off. You've got to be okay with that if that is something you are driven to do. And, yes, it takes an extremely narcissistic (if not totally delusional) personality to actually believe she/he can actually even make the tiniest of dents in their cause.

    So I say you be free with your speech. Don't worry about my feelings or anyone else's for that matter. I've been expelled, sanctioned, fined and threatened with toothless letters from worthless attorneys to because I said I've wanted to say and I have no regrets.

    I look forward to hearing all the ways that you think we "did it wrong" when it comes to non-monogamy as I certainly have no disagreement there.

    be well... Kidder Kaper

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  12. Oh please write more! You are an excellent writer with great insight. I believe one positive thing out of this haterate mini-series is that kidder turned me and many other people, he still believes are his die hard fans, on to your blog.

    I was sympathetic to his fans that idolize him and have had their world turned upside down by his recent actions. After watching with my jaw dropped to the floor how some of them on FB continue to support and enable his vile behavior, name calling,the flood of hate that spews out of his mouth,his lies, the horrible way he treats his partner in public (which likely is much worse in private), the nasty way he treats anyone that doesn't kiss his ass etc. etc. I was beyond disgusted and lost all respect and sympathy for them too.

    I don't think anything/anyone can help these fangirls/boys enablers except another narcissist like kidder. You are clearly not a narcissist or bordeline personality so I don't think you can help them.

    However, you can certainly help many, many others by writing your series of posts about negotiating open relationships-the many of us who were listeners and have completely lost respect for him & his enablers, the many that are in open relationships or working towards opening their relationships and thinking wtf?! and the entire sex positive community in general!

    I don't believe that you have to worry about kicking a sad puppy-just a narcissist with his three enablers who sat silently while he performed a pretty good monologue- cue the dramatic, somber mood music effects to really make it sound sincere.Not impressed-not fooled!

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  13. Well, Kidder, there it is. While I may have preferred SiF when it was less about you, I will say that my husband and I have rehashed the last few episodes in great detail which has helped to clarify our own feelings about how we approach openness to each other. So even if I dislike what you've been doing, you're still inspiring discussion. I figure you'll get a kick out of that.

    Anon - Thanks! I wrote most of my most recent post before tracking down the Facebook stuff and I was pretty appalled, too. It's interesting you used the word "enabler" - I still have a hard time differeniating some of the women on the show (Minnestoa accents all sound alike to me!) but it does seem like Rick and Lorax are loathe to disagree or call Kidder out, where I think it's LauraRad who does sometimes - very politely - suggest what I think a lot of us are thinking. Is it really a good idea to have Lorax function as their relationship therapist? Do these podcasts actually do anything beneficial for Kidder and Jade's relationship? And so forth. I really like Rick except when he's validating everything Kidder says. A podcast with more disagreement would have made a lot of this "let's examine Kidder's relationships" episodes a lot more interesting and dare I say, educational.

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  14. John, I mean, Anon,

    I'm totally cool with everything you said as they are your opinions of me which you are entitled to, certainly, but you are calling me out as a liar.

    Care to actually go locate a quote of mine that specifically proves that I've said something fully away that what I was saying was not true and designed to mislead? Honestly, I think you can find many valid things to complain about when it comes to what I've said, done, thought, and believed without having to manufacture stuff to sell your point.

    But that is just my opinion and I could be wrong.

    I also don't understand what the damage is with me going public with all of this. I feel as though it is a moral imperative that I be honest about this experience. For all these years I've been talking about not only the merits of living a non-vanilla life but also how to do it in a healthy fashion. It seems quite insincere of me to not investigate and discuss the negative possibilities, realities and my own failings as a person in a relationship and as a sex educator.

    It isn't all cotton-candy and pony rides and even when it is it is possible for stuff to go bad even if you feel you've totally prepared yourself for it. Shows that refuse to dig much deeper into what they do than to only show the ABSOLUTE BEST OF THE BEST aren't helping the lifestyle or anyone considering going into it. I'm certainly not hurting non-monogamy by admitting that I played and I got hurt. I'm not blaming the lifestyle anymore than I'm blaming skiing for my bone-on-bone prematurely arthritic knee. Shows like *Swingercast (that's right I'm calling the fuckers out again) won't even consider doing a show on oral barriers or STIs and ignoring the negatives don't help the lifestyle anymore than it helps smokers to deny that they aren't killing themselves with each wonderfully sweet nicotine filled puff.

    Kidder

    *For the record they may have done a show on herpes, proper oral barrier use, risk of infection, risk reduction, and all of that between now and the time I stopped listening, but they weren't interested on doing it back when I talked to them "a long time a go, we used to be friends." Frankly, their show got super boring and I have a short attention-span as it is. Since Life on the Swingset started their gig, I realized I had found my new source for non-monogamous news and entertainment. Go Coop and Gang!!!

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  15. Pedal Stools are what you sit on when riding the Pedal Pub http://forefoot.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/weird-human-transportation-pedal-pub-photo.jpg.

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  16. Hey Kidder,

    That wasn't me above. Paranoid much?

    Dude. Thanks so much for your interest in our show. We'll take your thoughts into consideration. Next time we want to show people the negative side of the lifestyle, we will direct them to your show.

    Best of luck,

    John
    (who always signs his posts)

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